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Topic: What is Guyana's mideast foreign policy?
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Abu Jihad
Member Posts: 60
From: Canada
Registered: JUN 2000
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posted October 27, 2000 06:36 PM
 
Eddie,Why are you a slave to the white mans bull? Break those shackles brother. READ the QURAN and free your SOUL. Looks like your soul requires JIHAD. Do you know how stupid you sound? Keep venting that racist stuff and eventually you will free your soul. I was just watchin Benny Hinn and he wants you to give him your credit card # and he will go to Isreal and pray for you. [This message has been edited by Abu Jihad (edited October 27, 2000).]
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Abu Jihad
Member Posts: 60
From: Canada
Registered: JUN 2000
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posted October 28, 2000 09:30 AM
Here you go Eddie,your answer to slavery and islam. Listen to this brother. He is now living in South Africa.
http://islamicity.com/../Video/irf3.ram Its worth your while to listen to the whole lecture. [This message has been edited by Abu Jihad (edited October 28, 2000).]
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eddie
Executive Member Posts: 4258
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Registered: FEB 99
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posted October 28, 2000 04:14 PM
Abu Jihad,Seems like you've lost it. First, I must caution you that when you start to throw barbs expect a few of them to come your way as well. Thus far, I've made no personal remarks about you. Use this analogy - if you hurl rocks at Israelis and they respond with gunfire, then you have nothing to complain about. The same applies to you, so tread carefully with your personal remarks. Jansher, you said quote:
Anyaway the issue at hand is Palestine, NOT IRAQ, SADDAM, KURDS, SYRIA, IRAN ETCH,...
I beg to differ, because the relations amongst those countries with their own people establishes a pattern of war mongering and violence. If they slaugher each other, then how much regard do they have for others who don't share their religious beliefs, particularly a Jew?. You guys cannot defend the fact that this is nothing more than a jihad against Israel being waged at the expense of the Palestinians and particularly children. What prevents you from sorting out your differences at the bargaining table? Instead you choose war and then proceed to send kids to fight it. Jansher, what do you expect to happen when you do that????!!!!Listen Jansher, I do not deny the suffering of Palestinians. But so far I've documented the fact that every attempt Israel has made at peace has been rebuffed by the fanatical Islamics. You cite huge sums of aid, yet the Palestinians fight with rocks and live in refugee camps. Arabs have chosen war, so now they will suffer the consequences. It is that simple. It is a pity that they choose to fight in a cowardly fashion using innocent children as soldiers. Here's an article on how these children are sent to the slaughter by the likes of Arafat. From your positions here, I would have to say this is the nonsense that you condone. Martyrs In the Making Eddie
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Abu Jihad
Member Posts: 60
From: Canada
Registered: JUN 2000
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posted October 28, 2000 06:09 PM
Eddie,You asked about slavery and I gave you the answer so put that in your pipe and smoke. If you dont want to watch the lecture, you are and dam fool and you shouldnt ask any more questions. You need to cleanse your soul.
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Terry Ishmael
Executive Member Posts: 2827
From: New York
Registered: MAR 99
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posted October 28, 2000 08:55 PM
Another article on the brutality of the racist jewish murderers that illegally occupy Palestine. Quote: Israel: Death of a peacemaker
By Gareth Rubin London
Asel attends a Seeds Of Peace conference. Asil was shot dead on a demonstration near Galilee. Three Israeli rifle butts and a bullet ended Asel Aslih's life. Hardly a fitting end for a seventeen year-old peace activist.
''I think he was an easy target because he was naďve enough to think that because he didn't do anything to anyone, he would be safe,'' his sister Nadir told me from their parents' home in the village of Arabeh, near Galilee. ''And then they shot him in the neck. Left side. One bullet.''
Asel was shot dead during a demonstration on October 2. Asel's death wasn't just another in the long line of Palestinians killed in the month-long recent violence, for the young Arab-Israeli lived for the friends he had made through Seeds Of Peace, an international group which tries to bring young people from opposing sides of long-standing conflicts together as friends.
He had never been on a demonstration before in his life. Nadir, a twenty-one year old medical student, is convinced he was there out of curiosity and not to take part - certainly not in any violence. On the day he died, Asel's parents went looking for him, convinced that he would be in danger if he attended the demonstration. Nadir left a message on his mobile phone: "Get back, mum's going to have a heart attack if you don't come home soon." But instead they both watched their son die. 'You think to yourself: 'People like this, who believed so hard in peace, look what happened to them. They are the easy targets,' says Nadir. 'But each time I think of his work for peace, each time wearing his green shirt, then I say to myself: 'Who am I to say differently?'" Nadir says Asel was beaten and shot once through the neck by Israeli soldiers who chased him from the demonstration after tear gas and bullets had dispersed the crowd. Her brother died on the way to hospital, after spending over an hour waiting at Israeli checkpoints where the soldiers were less than helpful, even though Asel's parents and the ambulance driver begged them to let the ambulance pass. 'I don't have power enough to say he died for something silly that can't be achieved. I mean, if he died for it, he must have known more than I do,' says Nadir.
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Jansher
Executive Member Posts: 1135
From: Elmsford, NY 10523
Registered: MAY 99
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posted October 29, 2000 12:59 AM
WHAT HAVE THE ZIONISTS GIVEN, WHAT CONCESSIONS? LIST THEM NAME THEM??Isreal is the occupiers, they are refusing to implement 59 UN Resolutions; THEY ARE THE occuping power. They are being asked to with draw back to the 1967 border, that is no compomise, Gaza and Westbank including EAST JERUSALEM are not RECOGNIZE by the int'l community as part of Isreal. ISREAL 'S REFUSAL,NOT COMPORMISE No return of regugees
NO compensation for refugees
Builiding of Settlements
Refusing Palestinian or UN control of East Jerusalem
Refusal to share water
Refusal to put on trial Isreali terrorist and war criminals such as Ariel Sharon and Shamir, among many others.
Refual to compensate family for confiscation of their properties.
Refual to implement Oslo agreement. YES AND HOW CAN U HAVE A CEASE FIRE BETWEEN A sovereign State with an army and a state less people in refugee camps with stones. OH AND EDDIE'S BIG STUPID QUESTION, WHAT THE HELL ARE THE ZIONISTS DOING IN THE WEST BANK AND GAZA, IF THEY WERE NOT THERE NO STONES WILL BE THROWN ON THEM, so your question is answer. LEAVE ARAB LAND, and take the 78% OF PALESTINE THAT U ALREADY HAVE. Isreal is the illegal occupiers,a nd I am glad that many Americans were at the Layette Park rally in DC today for Palestine, and they encourage us to bring the truth to the AMERICAN PEOPLE of the true aggressors in the region, they are like all of us tired of give charity in the billions each year to ISREAL who have killed americans and have spied on us. HAVE WE FORGOTTEN THAT IT WAS THE ZIONISTS in 1967 aattacked the us ship Libery off Sinai, killing 34 Americans. 1991 US Embassy in Beirut was tap by the zionists. Pollard the spy is still in US jail.
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Jansher
Executive Member Posts: 1135
From: Elmsford, NY 10523
Registered: MAY 99
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posted October 29, 2000 01:02 AM
WHAT HAVE THE ZIONISTS GIVEN, WHAT CONCESSIONS? LIST THEM NAME THEM??Isreal is the occupiers, they are refusing to implement 59 UN Resolutions; THEY ARE THE occuping power. They are being asked to with draw back to the 1967 border, that is no compomise, Gaza and Westbank including EAST JERUSALEM are not RECOGNIZE by the int'l community as part of Isreal. ISREAL 'S REFUSAL,NOT COMPORMISE No return of regugees
NO compensation for refugees
Builiding of Settlements
Refusing Palestinian or UN control of East Jerusalem
Refusal to share water
Refusal to put on trial Isreali terrorist and war criminals such as Ariel Sharon and Shamir, among many others.
Refual to compensate family for confiscation of their properties.
Refual to implement Oslo agreement. YES AND HOW CAN U HAVE A CEASE FIRE BETWEEN A sovereign State with an army and a state less people in refugee camps with stones. OH AND EDDIE'S BIG STUPID QUESTION, WHAT THE HELL ARE THE ZIONISTS DOING IN THE WEST BANK AND GAZA, IF THEY WERE NOT THERE NO STONES WILL BE THROWN ON THEM, so your question is answer. LEAVE ARAB LAND, and take the 78% OF PALESTINE THAT U ALREADY HAVE. Isreal is the illegal occupiers,a nd I am glad that many Americans were at the Layette Park rally in DC today for Palestine, and they encourage us to bring the truth to the AMERICAN PEOPLE of the true aggressors in the region, they are like all of us tired of give charity in the billions each year to ISREAL who have killed americans and have spied on us. HAVE WE FORGOTTEN THAT IT WAS THE ZIONISTS in 1967 aattacked the us ship Libery off Sinai, killing 34 Americans. 1991 US Embassy in Beirut was tap by the zionists. Pollard the spy is still in US jail.
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Jansher
Executive Member Posts: 1135
From: Elmsford, NY 10523
Registered: MAY 99
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posted October 29, 2000 01:05 AM
WHAT CONCESSIONS, WHAT HAVE THE ZIONISTS OFFERED THE PALESTINIANS???"Why Won't Palestinians Agree to Live in Peace with Israelis?" Mainstream US media pose this question repeatedly, presenting Palestinian
protests against a backdrop of "generous Israeli compromises" in
negotiations, with frequent reminders that Barak has "gone farther" than any
Israeli leader in meeting Palestinian political demands. Actually, Barak has
given back no conquered territory since taking office. His much-lauded Camp
David offer on Jerusalem amounts to "municipal autonomy" for Palestinians,
which would allow Israel to maintain political control over the city with no
responsibility for administrative services or infrastructure. In addition to
full sovereignty over the heart of the city, Israel would retain control
over the nearly 30% of the West Bank that it unilaterally defines as
"Greater Jerusalem."
The sham of Israeli "generosity" extends to the entire occupied territories.
Despite the gross imbalance of power reflected in the Oslo Accords, most
Palestinians were initially willing to accept the basic framework in order
to finally be rid of the Israeli occupation. The problem was that under
Oslo, Israel actually consolidated its control over the West Bank and Gaza.
Israeli settlements have been expanded into large blocs and a massive road
network (directly funded by US taxes) has been built exclusively for Israeli
settlers -- all in violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention. A maze of
roadblocks and permanent military checkpoints is used to police Palestinian
movement and to bar Palestinians from reaching their jobs, schools,
hospitals and places of worship in Israel proper and Jerusalem. Israel
controls all travel between the West Bank and Gaza, and the territories
themselves have been truncated into dozens of isolated cantons, separated by
Israeli-controlled areas. Large swaths of Palestinian territory are still
patrolled by Israeli soldiers and occupied by hostile settlers. Palestinians
are unable to move freely between their towns and villages or control their
borders, economy or natural resources. The failure of the peace process to
protect Palestinians from Israeli domination is the source of the
frustration and despair underlying today's militant demonstrations.
The US as an Obstacle to Peace
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Abu Jihad
Member Posts: 60
From: Canada
Registered: JUN 2000
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posted November 01, 2000 07:07 AM
4,000 additional Jewish only units planned for illegally confiscated Har Homa(Arabs need not apply) By Akiva Eldar Ha'aretz Correspondent Monday, October 30, 2000 The Jerusalem municipal authority intends to discuss a project for the construction of an additional 4,000 residential units in Har Homa. The area in question lies along the south-eastern border of the city and is adjacent to the Palestinian village of Beit Sahur. The plan, which is titled Har Homa B, is part of a Housing Ministry initiative that will be implemented on land confiscated from Palestinians. The timing of the project, however, is the decision of the Jerusalem municipal authority.
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Jansher
Executive Member Posts: 1135
From: Elmsford, NY 10523
Registered: MAY 99
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posted November 01, 2000 08:38 PM
THE TRUTH IS COMMING TO LIGHT, THANK GOD
Wednesday, 1 November, 2000, 23:55 GMT Israel 'may be guilty of war crimes'
Israel is accused of breaching its own rules and the Geneva Convention
Human rights group Amnesty International has condemned Israel's military tactics in the occupied territories, saying they could amount to war crimes.
Five weeks of Arab-Israeli violence have left some 160 people dead, many of them children, almost all of them Palestinian.
An Amnesty delegation which has just returned from the region said Israeli forces were no longer carrying out investigations into killings - as would have been automatic before the current troubles began. If a kid is throwing stones at you but not posing any other risk, you don't shoot him Amnesty research director Claudio Cordone "There is a pattern of gross human rights violations that may well amount to war crimes," Amnesty's international research director and a member of the delegation, Claudio Cordone, told a news conference in London.
"There is excessive use of force resulting in killings that shouldn't take place.
"If a kid is throwing stones at you but not posing any other risk, you don't shoot him."
Geneva Conventions
Amnesty International also criticised the Palestinians for firing on Jewish settlements and said they had a duty to prevent children from putting their lives at risk. Running for cover as bullets fly
It also condemned Palestinian officials for their slowness in investigating the mob killings of two Israeli reservists in the West Bank town of Ramallah last month.
But although the group comes down hard on both sides, the weight of its condemnation bears more heavily on Israel.
It says the Israeli forces are breaking their own rules as well as international standards laid down in the Geneva Conventions: namely, that lethal force must only be used to counter an immediate threat to life.
Israel has consistently said it uses whatever force is necessary to protect the lives of its soldiers and civilians.
'Short fuse'
Mr Cordone also repeated long-standing criticism of Israel's failure to use proper policing methods against rioters, including shields to deal with stones and petrol bombs without killing people.
"It tends to be children and others flinging stones, even Molotov cocktails, and the Israeli forces seem to have a pretty short fuse in their answer.
"They therefore tend to react with combat reflexes as opposed to what would be proper policing methods," he said.
One of only two cases Israel is looking into is that of 12-year-old Palestinian boy Rami al-Durra, who was shot dead in his father's arms in scenes broadcast around the world.
The Amnesty delegation is the group's second to visit the region since fighting broke out on 28 September.
The latest findings go much further than its earlier criticism that Israeli troops were using "excessive force" against Palestinians.
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